Em's Offspring

Thanks for the well wishes, everyone.  We both seem to be on the mend.

Mac, at least we get to see your Angelica in your game antics thread.  Since she gets to be married to Jon Snow I won't feel too bad for her.

Sugah wrote:

Enrique is all that, a bag of chips & some cookies & cream ice cream with chocolate syrup and whipped cream on top.  

Sugah wrote:

It makes all the difference randomizing in CAS mode before our Sims have a second child (if not doing so in one long game playing session).
Doesn't it?

Yes, it does!  I hate when I forget to do it.  This time I remembered in time, but I decided to do the faceblendinglimits cheat as an experiment and I saw absolutely no difference.  I did expect their hair, eyes, skin, and personality to be identical though.  I thought I might try to changed Gabriel's eye and skin color with SimPE to see how it would look, but the changes didn't seem to take.  

Sugah wrote:

Here's hoping they are more honorable and faithful when it comes to the opposite sex than their dear old dad.  

So far, at least Dante doesn't seem to be.   But in Enrique's defense, he has been more faithful since he and Angelica moved in together (minus one or two isolated events) and Angelica has had her share of romantic partners in the past too. I did catch her flirting with one of the neighbors (or him with her.  I didn't see who initiated it.)

Sandy wrote:

I really think Franco and Raymie are a beautiful couple. To me they look very "Italian"!! The names are so appropriate too-Ramon, Portia and Francesca! A beautiful family for sure.

I thought so too, at least for Franco.  When I looked up his name it said the origins were Spanish or Italian, so that's what I went with.  I've always thought Raymie had kind of an Indian look, but I could see Mediterranean possibly too.

Sugah wrote:

And it's a helluva lot quicker & easier to say than Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent Sim God! laughin

I thought about abbreviating the two terms.  NA/OOOSG

Thanks for the compliments, everyone.  It's so nice to see you here again, Ari!  

I want to post more, but I'm trying to decide if I need to post it in my other thread.  It may be too much detail and plot, but I can keep it brief.  The pictures will just be parents and offspring as per the guidelines.

Em wrote:

(minus one or two isolated events)

Em wrote:

Mac, at least we get to see your Angelica in your game antics thread.  Since she gets to be married to Jon Snow I won't feel too bad for her.

Em wrote:

Yes, it does!  I hate when I forget to do it.  This time I remembered in time...

I almost freakin' forgot to do it when the Haevens gave birth to the twins!
Can you believe it? After all this talk of randomizing/rolling the dice in CAS so the kiddos aren't all clones of one another...
Evie almost gave birth before I remembered!  
I ended up not saving and going into CAS mode, but not much was lost.
I kept up on saving often while playing that night.  

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...but I decided to do the faceblendinglimits cheat as an experiment and I saw absolutely no difference.

Interesting! No difference whatsoever?
I wonder if using that cheat takes away from the true nature of this experiment in genetics?  

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So far, at least Dante doesn't seem to be.  

Tsk tsk.
The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree, does it?
I'm glad Enrique has become more faithful since with Angelica.
Let's hope he keeps on the straight and narrow and never looks back at his womanizing days & ways.
(PS He needs to set a good example for his sons.   )

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I thought about abbreviating the two terms.  NA/OOOSG

@ Em. That works, too!
In keeping with that thought, how about OOOGS (easy to pronounce & fun to say   ): Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent Goddess (of) Sims  

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I want to post more, but I'm trying to decide if I need to post it in my other thread ...
... The pictures will just be parents and offspring as per the guidelines.

Thank you, Em, for honoring the rules of this Offspring Project.  
We can always share more details & snapshots of our SP Offspring families in our game antics threads.
In fact, I encourage it.  
I'd really prefer we keep it to just sharing images of the parents & offspring (in stages of their lives) in the Project threads here.  

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I almost freakin' forgot to do it when the Haevens gave birth to the twins!
Can you believe it? After all this talk of randomizing/rolling the dice in CAS so the kiddos aren't all clones of one another...
Evie almost gave birth before I remembered!
I ended up not saving and going into CAS mode, but not much was lost.

Aw, what a bummer. I'm glad you didn't lose too much progress. I ended up forgetting with Ming and Drake's third pregnancy, but didn't want to exit without saving. Luckily the baby was a girl, so she'll strongly resemble her oldest brother, Peter, but their gender difference will keep them from being complete carbon copies.

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Interesting! No difference whatsoever?

Well, you can look at Gabriel and Dante for yourself and think what you think. If there are any differences it's not enough for me to tell them apart.

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I wonder if using that cheat takes away from the true nature of this experiment in genetics?

I don't know. It changes the way the game blends genes, but on or off it's still the game using the genetics of SP sims to create offspring.

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In keeping with that thought, how about OOOGS (easy to pronounce & fun to say laughin ): Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent Goddess (of) Sims

Works for me!

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I'd really prefer we keep it to just sharing images of the parents & offspring (in stages of their lives) in the Project threads here.

I'm trying to decide where the line is between introducing the sims involved and getting too many details. I also want to share my extras chronologically on my game thread, so I might have to wait on these next particular offspring I'm eager to introduce.

In the meantime, some of my couples have been taking the elixir to stay young into their children's teens and early adult years and with their new-found youth are starting to have a second round of kids.

At Ming and Drake's, Frances becomes a teen.


With three teens in the house, I'm not sure they were planning on another baby or if they weren't ready to be empty-nesters just yet. This is baby girl, Alice (who is the one I forgot to randomize before her birth.)


Alice grows into a beautiful purple haired (!) toddler and child. (And now I can't regret not randomizing. )



I was feeling kind of bad that Alice came along as her siblings were going off to college, so I was kind of glad that Ming got pregnant again after Alice was born, so she would have a playmate growing up. The new baby is also a girl. Her name is Lynn and she is the first of the kids to inherit Ming's brown eyes. At this point, she's still and infant.

Sugah wrote:

I kept up on saving often while playing that night.

Aaron reminds me to save my game every Sim morning at 8.

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how about OOOGS

I love it!

Em, Frances is a sensitive-looking beauty. Alice's hair is certainly unique! What a fun surprise. And finally a little one with Ming's eyes. I'm anxious to see what Lynn looks like as she grows up.

Oh, Em! Frances is such a pretty teen! I agree with Cher.
She has gorgeous, soft, sensitive-looking eyes.
I bet she's going to be even more of a knock out as an adult!
And Alice, too!!! WOW! Those eyes ... so big and blue!
She's a darling child and is somehow pullin' off that lavender hair.
Welcome Lynn with your mama's sweet brown eyes!

Em wrote:

I'm trying to decide where the line is between introducing the sims involved and getting too many details. I also want to share my extras chronologically on my game thread, so I might have to wait on these next particular offspring I'm eager to introduce.

I know what you mean, and I truly doubt you are the only one struggling with the matter.
I didn't set out to make this project so difficult, especially concerning "sharing too many details & off-subject images".

Alice should have the same eyes as her older siblings, but I think the purple hair really makes them pop.  Her hair was a big surprise, but it seems to compliment her eyes really well, somehow.

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I didn't set out to make this project so difficult, especially concerning "sharing too many details & off-subject images". No

We just get so attached and its hard to limit them to just sharing faces when they have so much personality leaping out of the screen.   It would have been a lot easier for me if my parent sims had just paired up and stayed together, but when they start of having children with one partner, then have children with another, that requires some explanation.  So I have a couple of offspring I need to hold off on, so everyone isn't wondering where that pairing came from.  

But in the meantime, the couples I've already shared are still having more babies.

Raymie and Franco had another little girl after their older three were teens.  This is Marina and like her older siblings, she strongly resembles her mother.


I'm thinking this will probably be the last child for the couple (barring any unexpected surprises.)  Raymie rolled a fear of having another baby after Marina was born and she wasn't rolling up all of the family interaction wants like she did when the older three were growing up.  I think she's ready to move on from mothering young children to other pursuits.

Ava and Patrick finally got their second child.  And I didn't even have to send them on vacation.  It did take a lot of elixir of life and a fertility potion though before they were successful.  Their second child is also a boy.  Meet Connor's little brother, Erik.  It looks like Erik's got mom's blue eyes, while Connor got their dad's eye color.

I see that several of your toddlers prefer the more formal look, just as Gavin 1.0 did.

We've seen that Raymie's children tend to grow into their noses and end up very attractive. I really like Marina's face -- her eyes especially. I don't blame Raymie for wanting to be done having babies; she's certainly had her share!

I'm glad Connor finally got a younger sibling, and Erik looks like a nice little guy.

All of the children are so striking so far! Frances and Alice both inherited daddy Drake's bright blue eyes - and I, too, am loving that lavender hair - it looks really cute on her. I'm eager to see how Lynn turns out with mommy's pretty brown eyes.

Marina is a beauty. I love her skintone with her huge brown eyes - and such long eyelashes!

Connor and Erik are handsome lads! I wonder why Ava and Patrick had such a hard time conceiving. Will they have more children?

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I see that several of your toddlers prefer the more formal look,

They do seem to grow in to the formal outfits fairly often, but then they tend to spend the rest of their toddler years in their jammies.  

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We've seen that Raymie's children tend to grow into their noses and end up very attractive.

Her nose seems to translate well to the girls and from the front, but poor Ramon in profile . . . Here he is from the side as a young adult.  I hate to say it, but a slight nose job for him might not be out of line.     I still  him though.  

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Frances and Alice both inherited daddy Drake's bright blue eyes

And so did their very handsome big brothers!  I'm glad that one of them finally inherited Ming's eyes.  I'm looking forward to seeing how Lynn turns out as well.

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Marina is a beauty. I love her skintone with her huge brown eyes - and such long eyelashes!

I hadn't noticed her eyelashes.  The kids all got that same skintone from Franco and the dark eyes.  Both Raymie and Franco have brown eyes and I haven't looked closely enough to see which parent each child got their eye color from.  I need to go back and compare Marina and Francesca side by side and similar ages and see how alike they look.  I think Marina may look more like her or Ramon than Portia.

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I wonder why Ava and Patrick had such a hard time conceiving. Will they have more children?

I don't know.   I was very hands off with all of my couples and let them try for baby on their own.  Patrick and Ava were trying even before they were engaged and I think they continued trying after Connor was born.  Maybe it was a combination of bad luck early on and age later.  With ACR they tend to have a lower chance of pregnancy when they get older.  I gave them a lot of elixir before Erik was conceived.  And there will be more children in their future.  I forgot that Ava was pregnant again when I last left them!  

I finally caught up enough in my game thread so I could post the last of the offspring in this group here without too much exposition.  If you want the details [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  (It didn't take as long to catch up there as I thought it would.)

Between fathering Angelica's children, ladies' man, Enrique, also had an affair that resulted in children with Sugah's [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


The first pregnancy resulted in a set of twins, Amelie and Andre.  I have no idea which is which here.  I forget who was born first.  They both inherited Enrique's lighter skin, Anaïs's brown eyes, and of course black hair (like all of my sims in this project, with the exception of Kieran, well, and Alice, sort of   ). The specific hair Amelie grew into does look more brown, but genetically it must be binned as black.


Here are the twins as toddlers.  Amelie.


And Andre.


Children


And teens


A second pregnancy between Anais and Enrique resulted in a single birth.  A son named Javier.  He also got Enrique's skin and Anais' eyes.  I think he looks a lot like Enrique overall.


Javier is still a child, so no teen pics yet.

So much going on in here!

Em wrote:

We just get so attached and its hard to limit them to just sharing faces when they have so much personality leaping out of the screen.  

What I've been doing is sharing the Offspring families' lives in my game antics thread, then directing folks here for pics of just the kiddos in different stages (infant, toddler, child, teen).
You can cross link, if you want, like I've done a time or two, directly between the two sections' threads.
In other words, "Visit here if you'd like to learn more about Raymie & Franco's lives.", etc., etc.
Or "Another baby has arrived for Anaïs & Enrique here." (You get the picture. )

Marina ... another name I like!
What strong, dominant genes Raymie has, doesn't she? Woah!

Erik looks darling so far with his mama's big blue eyes.

Poor Ramon! That nose! EGADS!

Thank you for using my Anaïs in this project, Em. I am tickled to see her in your game.
Andre is a cutie. His brown eyes look so sweet and sensitive in all his pics ... Same with baby bro Javier, too.

You are really rockin' and rollin' along here.

SimEm wrote:

but poor Ramon in profile . . . Here he is from the side as a young adult.  I hate to say it, but a slight nose job for him might not be out of line.

I'd say, in the interests of realism, leave the nose as is. After all, I have had Gerard Depardieu and his son - the nose becomes a trademark!  His mom, Raymie, resembles a very attractive young woman who Maikki and I know.

Your twins are beautiful, and Amelie gets even more so all the time!

They're all such darlings and have big expressive eyes. I hate to say something like I'm glad Enrique had an affair, but I'm actually glad he did.

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but poor Ramon in profile

Oh dear! That's a lot to grow into.

Astral Faery wrote:

I hate to say something like I'm glad Enrique had an affair, but I'm actually glad he did.

I know! He and Anais made some darling children.

It does look like Javier (I love that name) resembles Enrique a lot. I can't wait to see him when he's older.

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I'd say, in the interests of realism, leave the nose as is.

I probably will leave it alone. If I changed it all, it would just be very slightly to even out that bump. He's really quite handsome from the front.

Thanks for the compliments everyone. I'm glad you like the new little ones.

I'm going to have to catch up in my other thread as the older children are reaching adulthood and almost ready to start families of their own. I did have a few of the little ones grow up.

Lynn has grown from a baby to a sweet toddler.


And here's Erik as a big blue eyed child.


I took a closer look at the eye colors of Raymie and Franco's family and the kids all got Raymie's eyes. I forgot Franco's were kind of green-brown (like mine in RL!) and Raymie's and the kids' are all brown.

Lynn is a beauty - I just knew she would be. Erik is a cutie, too. Wow, you've been playing this long enough for the first-borns to grow up already? Will you have them marry each other? That's what I'm planning on doing with mine.

Mac wrote:

I'd say, in the interests of realism, leave the nose as is.

Yes, especially since this is an experiment in genetics, Em.
I'm sure there is someone in Waterside Park who will love Ramon, large, bumpy nose and all.  

Lynn & Erik are beautiful children. Those eyes!

Ari wrote:

Wow, you've been playing this long enough for the first-borns to grow up already? Will you have them marry each other? That's what I'm planning on doing with mine.

I think that's how a few of us have decided to play this project, Ari.
It's going to be so neat to see generations of SP Offspring populate our 'hoods.
I, for one, am working on having this first generation all become teens together.
Then, we'll see who falls for one another to pair up for the next generation.
I'm also looking forward to the original, founding couples being grandparents & eventually, great-grandparents.

Lynn looks a little more serious than her brother, and I love her outfit.

Ari wrote:

Will you have them marry each other?

That's what I'm planning to do. I'll probably send most of them to Uni and hope that they pair up there. I'm also hoping to bring in the extracted Paloma 1.0 at that point. She's too pretty not to include in this project, just because her parents were in another game.

I see I'm in good company, then, because I wanted to see grandchildren and great-grandchildren, too.  I've actually been doing this in another neighborhood for awhile, now, but with only my own sims.  The fourth generation is well underway - that's the longest I've stuck with any neighborhood.  I would have shared, but I didn't take any pics until late generation 2, and then only a couple, at that.  I didn't think that was eligible for this challenge, though, as I wanted the diversity of other creators' sims, as well.  Perhaps I'll share sometime in my own thread.

Cher wrote:

I'm also hoping to bring in the extracted Paloma 1.0 at that point. She's too pretty not to include in this project...

Paloma is absolutely stunning, Lady C.

Ari wrote:

...as I wanted the diversity of other creators' sims, as well. Perhaps I'll share sometime in my own thread.

That'd be terrific, Ari! I don't know if I've ever played past the second generation of any hood.  
We'd love to see four generations of your own Sims in the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
Just PM me and I will unlock your game antics thread if you decide to share again there.

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Wow, you've been playing this long enough for the first-borns to grow up already?

I have been playing a lot lately. My new computer runs so much more nicely than my old, junky laptop, so I can play longer and faster, but my playing will probably slow down now that Chase is out of school for the summer and once my summer semester starts.

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Will you have them marry each other?

Some will. Others have attached themselves to other teens living in the hood. I have them paired up and living together. I probably should make them get married, since I keep waiting for them to have the wants first, but they seldom do.

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Yes, especially since this is an experiment in genetics, Em.
I'm sure there is someone in Waterside Park who will love Ramon, large, bumpy nose and all.

I would have stuck to pre-adjustment pictures for this thread anyway.

We were talking in another thread about how nice it is that sims don't care at all about sexual orientation or gender identity. It's also nice that they do not care at all about physical appearance (except for turn ons/turn offs.). Facial structure is completely irrelevant to being loved. It reminds me of a sim blog I follow. One of their sims was not what I would call attractive, but apparently all of the other sims in the hood thought she was hot stuff.

I've got a partner for Ramon in mind. I just hope this other sim she's taken notice of doesn't distract her too much and cause her to lose interest in Ramon. Otherwise I might have to find someone else for him.

I definitely plan to get to grandchildren. I don't know about great-grandchildren though . . . we'll see.

I think the farthest I've gotten in a sims neighborhood was five generations, by that point things started to get laggy for me.

Em wrote:

My new computer runs so much more nicely than my old, junky laptop, so I can play longer and faster...

Yaaaay! That's great, Em. There's nothing like slow game play to cramp a Simmer's style.

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...how nice it is that sims don't care at all about sexual orientation or gender identity. It's also nice that they do not care at all about physical appearance (except for turn ons/turn offs.). Facial structure is completely irrelevant to being loved.

Alas! If only it were that way in real life...  
to Ramon on the love match you have in mind for him.  

Em wrote:

I think the farthest I've gotten in a sims neighborhood was five generations...

WOW!!!
Five generations!?! Now that's impressive stick-to-itiveness!  

Ava and Patrick have been busy! Connor and Erik are adorable.  I also vote to leave Ramons' nose as is! Makes him unique and I think the girls will love it!

Ming and Drake have beautiful babies! Your picture of Frances as a teen made me think she is such a natural beauty!  I also love that hair on her!

I'm happy that Alice and Lynn got Mings brown eyes!

Raymie and Franco had the sweet Marina!  Love that picture!

Enrique is sure a busy guy!! He and Anais make awesome kids though!  Amelie and Andre so cute!
I do agree that Javier looks more like Enrique - I guess only time will tell if he also has his charm.  

I hope I didn't mix anyone up!

Ari wrote:

The fourth generation is well underway - that's the longest I've stuck with any neighborhood.

The longest I've stuck with a hood is Pirri Pirri, where I was just starting to get a few fourth generation babies. Then the whole XP thing happened and I built my new computer (with Russ's invaluable help). I've actually kept that computer because I use it test things before uploading and sharing them. I could go back and play Pirri Pirri a bit, but it would be so frustratingly slow I don't think I could take it (probably like your laptop, Em; it would be hard to go back, wouldn't it?). I'm also just starting Isle of Demeter and want to continue with it, even though I've sidetracked myself with Sugah's Pleasantview. The Offspring Project is just so much fun!

Em wrote:

We were talking in another thread about how nice it is that sims don't care at all about sexual orientation or gender identity. It's also nice that they do not care at all about physical appearance (except for turn ons/turn offs.). Facial structure is completely irrelevant to being loved.

Yes, I care far more about it in my Sims than the Sims themselves do. I'm not as bad as my SIL, though. She's killed off a couple of babies in the past because she didn't want to look at them in her game. She says she can see plenty of imperfection in the mirror; she doesn't want it in her game. She puts or makes an Elvis Presley for every game (she's played 2, 3 and 4), but quickly learned not to let him breed.

Sugah wrote:

Five generations!?! Now that's impressive stick-to-itiveness!

It sure is!

I think 5 is what I got up to when I tried the legacy challenge, but that was just one family. My New Eden hood got up to 4 or 5 generations.

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Your picture of Frances as a teen made me think she is such a natural beauty!

She really is! The hair she has is the one she grew into on her own. I sent her to the mirror either to try a new hairstyle on her or to add make-up to match her love interest's turn ons and I realized she wasn't wearing any make-up because she didn't need it.

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I'm happy that Alice and Lynn got Mings brown eyes!

Alice has Drake's blue eyes. Lynn is the only one of their children to get Ming's brown eyes. I'm happy that she did too.

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(probably like your laptop, Em; it would be hard to go back, wouldn't it?).

No, I couldn't go back. I just moved everything over instead.

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She says she can see plenty of imperfection in the mirror; she doesn't want it in her game. She puts or makes an Elvis Presley for every game (she's played 2, 3 and 4), but quickly learned not to let him breed.

Too funny! I've had plenty of less than attractive sims born in my game. I get too attached to them to get rid of them though. They just have character.

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I think the girls will love it!

I think they will. Plus Ramon is very handsome from the front, in my opinion.

Most of my first born sims are paired off and expecting children of their own, but I'm holding off letting them give birth until some of their younger siblings grow up a little more. When I get caught up in my other thread I'll share the pairings there. Some of my offspring have paired off with other sims in the neighborhood so their children will not be eligible to share in this thread anyway. Plus I have some new SP couples who have started families too who I want to age up.

Let's see, since I shared last . . . Ava and Patrick had a third baby boy, Liam.


Ava and Patrick's middle son, Erik became a teen.


Meanwhile at Ming and Drake's, Lynn reaches childhood,


Alice becomes a teen,


and surprise, surprise, there's a new baby in the house. Craig makes baby number 6 and boy number 3 for this couple. That's a good even, balanced number of children. Maybe they'll be done now and start looking forward to grandchildren instead.


I think Ming and Drake do win for cutest children in my hood. In my opinion anyway, yours may vary.

And last, but not least, handsome Javier is a teen, and ready to melt the young ladies' hearts.